One thing when it comes to martial arts is the importance of stress testing your skills and abilities. What you see in the video below appears like a martial arts school challenge. Let's take a look at this Wing Chun vs Karate.
Wing Chun vs Karate
As we usually say, it's never about the martial arts itself, but rather about the practitioners involved. Anybody who has been to at least a bunch of martial arts classes knows that its practitioners do not necessarily represent the art.
Especially in Wing Chun, a lesson explained by one teacher is comprehended in many different ways by the students. That's actually also the reason why there are so many Wing Chun lineages out there.
The video was published on the following Youtube channel.
We don't want to show one martial art versus another one in absolute terms. We want just to show one kind of fight and what can happens. We also post videos where Wing Chun fighter loose.
This guy who say be of Karate, doesn't look to be a Karate fighter, Karate its a stand up art martial, with punchs, kicks etc. This guy don't demonstrate none skill in these moviments, he tries takes the Wing Chun fighter to the ground, and still tried a arm lock, these technies doesn't are common in Karate, but Jiu Jitsu, he looks like a Jiu Jitsu fighter, not a Karate fighter, he must be a Jiu Jitsu fighter.
I think the karate guy has never ever had a real fight before in his life.. The wing chun guy was very effective with his speed and strikes putting the karate guy under alot of pressure and gaining control.. Enjoyed the clip thank you ?
As a mature martial artists of some years now.
I have come to learn & have been taught by all my traditional
Martial Arts Sensei's .
That no one style is any better than another!
There is always someone quicker, stronger,more knowledgeable & faster ect!
No matter which style of martial art you do.
I try to remain humble & respectful of others!
I have been taught. You only fight if you have too as last resort or in the defence of others!
One observation is a lot of one to one fights do go to ground!
I have practiced MA for well over 30 yrs, and the wing Chun guy smacked the crap out of the kataret guy, his head shots were fast and accurate, it was a no match from the beginning - out classed completely
@Jeffery Oliver
I fully agree. He moves like he has never been in front of an opponent before. I wonder what style of karate he is from? I currently am a karateka, but studied kung fu in the 80s & 90s and happen to love Wing Chun...but this karate guy doesnt represent karate very well.
I can't believe he's a Karateka with a black belt on! He kept his head down never threw a single kick and didn't know how to block or throw a proper punch! I think he got his black belt on the internet! Not to discredit the wing chun fighter he was good but a 12 year old girl would look good against that karate fighter!
wt fighters dont go on the ground and he could hit him in the balls a couple of times and didt do it
..must have been rules to the fight ....bollocks wt knows no rules
Interesting fight. Just saying here guys coming from multiple disciplines myself... all forms are effective when used properly. Little confused as my main discipline is Chinese Kempo, at how this karateka chose to fight. Interesting none the less
@Thiago he is Kyokushin, and they are not use to punching in the face because it’s against the rules for full contact matches, I’m surprised he didn’t throw not even one kick though, and it does look like he trains in BJJ as well the way he kept trying to go to the ground, or he watches a lot of mma
Obviously the one who represents karate is a fake.One of the basics in karate is to execute techniques in split seconds or the fastest time possible....
Never seen any karate like that before, poor stance and guard. Poor movements and blocking. Bloody disgrace, I've seen white belt new beginners fight better after a month of training.
Thanks for thus content, pressure testing in organized combat is very necessary especially with different styles. Much respect too all wing chun and karate as well as all martial art students keep training.
Selamat and mabuhay
It looks like the Karate ka was sporting a Kykoshinkai kanji. His representation of this particular style was surprising and pretty disappointing. His distance, blocking and floor work was totally inadequate and the Kung fu fella owned him. Believe me Kushin is formidable, usually.
As someone with multiple black belts and training in all of these disciplines I can say that the fight was a legit representation of the effectiveness of the two practitioners of each respective art meeting each other and the Wong Chun Practitioner overwhelming the karate practitioner.
The part that should stand out is that despite their training in standing arts they both end up in the realm of jiu jitsu and attempting to execute Jiu jitsu techniques in very poor untrained ways due to their inability to finish the fight and the natural tendency to clinch. It should be, but likely won’t be, a wake up call to one-sided martial artists.
sorry but the guys who supposedly does karate blatently doesnt i saw 3 opertunities in the first 20 seconds where any decent karate practitioner would have drop or ankle sweeped the wing chun guy put him on the floor and it would be game over
@Thiago Not a Jiu Jitsu fighter; a mediocre blue belt would have whipped the shit out of either of them. I say this having a black belt in a karate-like style, and Tae Kwon do. But, I’m a purple belt in BJJ and was a a college wrestler. Average grapplers would have destroyed either of them. It’s just important to acknowledge this fact, and the value of a decent ground game.
@Thiago definitely not a jiujitsu fighter they both had trash ground game that fight would have been over a long tome ago with a white belt jiujitsu fighter lol joke
Very poor representation of karateka, the guy doesn't look to actually be trained in it at all. I've studied, trained and trained many others over a 30 year jui jitsu career and his ground work was better suited to that.
Hmmm some interesting comments here. Ye karate guy was not the choice for representation and i think wing man was quite enthusiastic but not so skilled orelse he would never b there. But heyho nice little scrap.
I find it interesting that both styles are meant to be fought on the feet but as soon as there were in a real fight all they training went out the window and they just did what ever they could to win and they ended up grappling on the ground
@Thiago
He may have adapt to the situation if you were on the ground would you be abke to apply karate? How can you defend and make offense?
You should switch! If you get entangled while standing then you can judo...... Does it make sense? But you were right we didnt see a skillful karateka on the way he punch and kick? Maybe he just practices Kata and same skill on sparring
He should do variety when facing someone of different discipline.
If Bob does Wing Chun and Bill does Karate it ain't Wing Chun Vs Karate.... it's Bob Vs Bill. The Karate style is very likely kyokoshinkia (sorry for poor spelling). They have a very narrow stance akin to a boxing stance and walk an opponent down. Other traditional karate styles have a wide leg stance and use control of distance involving lots of movement. P.s. any guy who walks into another disciplines dojo and challenges them to a fight is a cock juggling thunder cunt. This is real life not Hollywood. What a dick.
A better fighter is just that, regardless of the system they use/follow. Bruce Lee took away a good portion of the Wing Chun Yip Man taught him as he considered it useless. Most karate fighters never face full contact matches and it shows in the lack of contact to the strike points. Most kung fu stylists fight inside with their techniques but a good grappler cancels that. I'm a veteran Shorinji student and instructor and always fought full contact. Most matches are over in 30 seconds. Just depends on which player can score the first good hit/kick. Any solid contact strike will disable an opponent if it lands as intended. I've seen broken legs, dislocated shoulders and many serious head traumas to know that in international competition.
@Mattias Snaar I agree. The Karateka looks like he has been trained, very badly, in Kyokushin. However, I dont think this was a very good match up. All styles have their strengths and weaknesses. In this particular fight the Wing Chun fighter did very well against the karate fighter but he would not have stood much of a chance against a top level kyokushin fighter. This is by no means a slur against Wing Chun, mearly an observation about these 2 particular fighters. Comparing the 2 styles in this way is like having a race between a jumbo jet and a submarine. Both excel in their own environment but would lose in the others environment.
Pretty sure karate guy is kyokoshin so not usdd to punching to the head in sparring. Also just goes to show how hard it can be to actually use your art under pressure. Wing chun guy at least keeps some form.
Sorry, but that's not Kung Fu and either Karate, but 2 poor soul's fighting without whatsoever in Technic. Bushido art's aren't this at all, and the CHINESE HAND or OKINAWA HAND (later Kara-Te or EMPTY HAND) has nothing to do with this circus.
OSS !
@Thiago Don't we see this with the majority of fighters in the MMA, whose resume sounds like this: 9th degree black belt in judo, 8th degree black belt in Shotokan Karate and 4th degree black belt in Kyokushin Karate) and no sooner than the bell rings you see nowhere near the skills they're suppose to possess in actual combat.
@Hichem really... thaiboxing, savat, sambo, kravmaga... none of them very defensive styles rather offensive. Your reasoning sounds like me in my teens when i thought most could be sorted with aikido. Snap out of it man world is way more dark and sinister.
At least the Chinese stylist had the presence of mind to try to work within his form. Karateka is not a fighter for sure. You are the fighter... the style does not make you a fighter, fighting makes you a fighter. Going to the gym twice a week to congregate is not going to give you the ability to fight. Hell, going every day is not going to make you a fighter. Videos like this are purely entertainment, nothing more. You couldn't even use this as a "don't do this" training video...
It's never about style competing against another style. It's always person to person and it depends on each individual's skill and training regardless of what style of martial art he has trained in.
@Jeffery Oliver Que estilo de karate es ?? Por que hay varios estilos " otra cosa el arbitro tenia que parar el kumite con al karateca se le habrio el karategui para que lo acomode " el artista Marcial tenía varias opciones de cotratake, no uso sus patadas ni sus puños " no tirando golpes al boleo "